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> He knew what he was doing, and hew knew what he was doing was wrong.

He might have known (and even the extent of this is not clear) that what he was doing was illegal.

But that doesn't mean it is wrong, law and morality are two very different things.

Me and many others would argue that what he did was almost a moral imperative, he tried to free human knowledge (mostly paid by tax dollars!) from the artificial monopoly of some corporate leeches.

And if you need more arguments for this, just read up on what Thomas Jefferson had to say about it: http://harmful.cat-v.org/economics/intellectual_property/



Law and morality are most definitely two very different things, but that doesn't mean everyone gets to make up their own laws.

If what Swartz did was a "moral imperative", why aren't you working on liberating journal articles from Elsevier as we speak? My guess: because it is not really a moral imperative. There is a difference between a moral judgement and an "imperative", and you've lazily blurred that line.


If something is illegal, and you do it, you are at risk of being prosecuted.

If you believe something shouldn't be illegal, then campaign to get the law changed!

Are people video-camming movies in cinemas "just freeing human knowledge"? Were wikileaks publishing secret sensitive hacked info "just freeing human knowledge"?

I don't need any more arguments, because I absolutely disagree. If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. We live in a civilised society here. It's this kind of "political activism" I detest.


> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it.

On the contrary, history shows it to be one of the few effective methods.

You're saying that Rosa Parks was wrong when she refused to go to the back of the bus. The underground railroad was wrong for refusing to comply with fugitive slave laws. Ghandi was wrong for breaking the laws imposed by the British.

We live in a civilized society precisely because many people have disobeyed uncivilized laws. It's actually one of the hallmarks of our civilization that we can draw a distinction between what's right and what's legal.


You've given some good example.

But do you have any data on the downside of that approach?

How many people who disagree with a law will then cause havoc if they broke the law to get what they wanted? Instead of attempting to follow channels?


Well, agree to disagree. I do not think breaking the law, bullying, protesting, etc are good ways to behave.


Another good example is "Boston Tea Party" [1]. It was one of the catalysts of the American Revolution.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party


One of the causes of the Revolution was lack of representation and a means to change the law. Now that we have a representative government as a result of that war, one might hope we would use it.


> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it.

Is that because you believe it's not likely to be effective, or because you'd rather see an unjust law than an unruly populace?

Edit: ...or some third opinion that I can't think of


A Ian Clarke put it: "It is the responsibility of every citizen to ignore dumb laws."

And I would add: if people didn't ignore dumb laws society would crawl to a halt and collapse.




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