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Interestingly probably also soon true of reddit where this is posted, in the last few days they've been showing a "get the app to continue browsing" on the mobile site. It's possible for now to use desktop view still but clearly everyone is on the path towards "create an account to view user content".

Maybe it'll spawn new interest in the fediverse.


Looks nice, but also the website is really nicely done. How did you make the animations?

Thanks! Dynamic animations are from GSAP

What’s GSAP?

Frontend animation library

Try pi coding agent!

I know people don't like Twitter links here but the main link just goes to their main docs site generic 'getting started' page.

The website now has a link to the announcement on Twitter here https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/2047516922263285776

Copying text of that below

DeepSeek-V4 Preview is officially live & open-sourced! Welcome to the era of cost-effective 1M context length.

DeepSeek-V4-Pro: 1.6T total / 49B active params. Performance rivaling the world's top closed-source models.

DeepSeek-V4-Flash: 284B total / 13B active params. Your fast, efficient, and economical choice.

Try it now at http://chat.deepseek.com via Expert Mode / Instant Mode. API is updated & available today!

Tech Report: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main...

Open Weights: https://huggingface.co/collections/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v4


Just use xcancel by adding 'cancel' to the link

https://xcancel.com/deepseek_ai/status/2047516922263285776


I tried it and it looks really nice but like most of these it has too many small editing thorns for me to use. Two I noticed right away

- ctrl-a works to go to start of line but for some reason ctrl-e doesn't work to go to end

- ``` doesn't start a code block, you have to use 'insert code block'

Good job on paste image from clipboard though which is another feature that I think is completely essential for something like this and weirdly missing in many of them.


``` should definitely start a code block! I do it all the time, and also just tried it now. Can you try again or tell me what you see? Simply nothing happening?

ah I see it needs a space. I tried

```[ENTER]

and

```python[ENTER]

and I also assumed there was no code highlighting but I see after I add a code block I can select the language through the UI

```[SPACE] works, but immediately places the cursor below the block where I'm more used to the cursor moving into the block after creation


The bad ones seem like this, the scary part is not knowing if there are good ones

Generally when people start having a back and forth about a product I assume it’s astroturfing unless it makes sense in context and/or it’s just one of those brands people genuinely get excited about (they tend to be obvious ones you’ve seen a lot already).

Doesn’t mean I don’t ever get duped, but idk. You learn to spot the signs. I imagine most of us on HN catch most instances. Genuine-seeming referrals aren’t as easy to fake as one would think.


Investment is done by relationships, belief in a future vision and team, and growth metrics like number of paying customers.

The technology itself in its current form is not valuable


Sobering comment for all the little people like myself who dream of owning a business based on a vision of cool tech that just does what it promises (as opposed to all the corporate shovelware out there)

Author here.

Almost every VC rejected us when we went to get seed funding for Tailscale, we knew none of them. Friends of friends of acquaintances got us meetings. Fundraising is very possible for you if you are committed to building a business. Most important thing is don't think of fundraising as the goal, it is just a tool for building a business. (And some businesses don't need VC funding to work. Some do.)

The biggest challenge is personal: do you want to build a business or do you want to work with cool tech? Sometimes those goals are aligned, but usually they are not. Threading the needle and doing both is difficult, and you always have to prioritize the business because you have to make payroll.


How did you eventually get funding after those initial rejections? What changed?

One VC (well, two) understood it. Despite what you hear, there is a lot of variation. Speak to a lot of people.

Surprising that a founding team as strong as Tailscale's had to go door-to-door to get seed funding in. Glad that Tailscale did & changed the industry like it ought to, though I'm sure, y'all would have managed to self-fund it either way.

You can still do that. Not every business needs to be a hyperscaling startup.

Agreed! Over at https://pico.sh we are chugging along and having a blast. Profitable but at a scale that is manageable for us. Cheers

Seems like pro-openclaw arguments dressed up as anti ones. Author remembers MS DOS for a reason.

I have similar concerns and somehow think openclaw will not be remembered in 30 years time so the comparison does not land for me


I (my agents) have been playing with the kalshi and poly market APIsv and whatever your opinion on the markets themselves it does feel like there's a bunch of interesting things to do with such a firehose of realtime data.

I hope they stay as open and generous as they are now with programmatic access


"I hope they stay as open and generous as they are now with programmatic access"

Make a prediction for it: When will Gamma/Data/CLOB require subscription: 2026, 2027, etc.


I tried it out with my normal mixed-up wolf, goat, cabbage problem and it couldn't solve it. Sonnet 4.6 also can't, but Opus 4.7 has no problems.

Details here [0]

[0] https://techstackups.com/comparisons/kimi-2.6-vs-opus-4.7-an...


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