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Or perhaps "to compel someone to act against their will or to break through resistance."

But knowing this administration, "an energy field created by all living things that surrounds, penetrates, and binds the galaxy together."


The midichlorians are numerous in this one

Might as well pick it up. I was essentially "forced" to update to get my new XDR display running and I've learned to live with Tahoe.

Tahoe is buggier than Sequoia, but Sequoia was rather buggy already. You'll see a lot of new annoyances in Tahoe, but then it will just feel like typically modern Apple software, just with more and more iPhone UI everywhere.

The one outstanding benefit is that it will now autocomplete codes sent via text messages, just like iOS.


> The one outstanding benefit is that it will now autocomplete codes sent via text messages, just like iOS.

This is not a new Tahoe feature. macOS has done this as long as the iPhone has.

As for OP, the time and mental energy spent fighting it would probably be better spent getting familiar with the OS. It’s not that different, other than the coat of paint. It may not be on your schedule, but neither would the fight. Not picking the computer up is also more impactful to your productivity than an OS upgrade.

While not with Apple, I just spent the last 6 months trying to fight charges from FedEx I felt were in error. I wish now that I would have just paid the money, taken my lumps, and moved on with my life. The stress it caused wasn’t worth it and it’s still not resolved.


Point taken, having a new OS forced on you in the middle of work is stress but trying to fight a big corporation over this may be even more stress.

Honestly, though, after seeing the next Tahoe-only generation of Apple Silicon come out a couple of months after I bought my laptop, I was so happy thinking I get to keep Sequoia for another year.


> The one outstanding benefit is that it will now autocomplete codes sent via text messages, just like iOS.

Like the sibling comment, I believe I had this happen in Sequoia, too.

That said, input appreciated.


This reevaluation postulates that the participants didn't deviate by mistake, but deliberately. The participant could have waited for the respondent to be in a state in which they could answer. (Reminder: the exercise was officially about answering questions, not enduring shocks).

Instead, most participants rushed through, most likely to end their own negative experience. Which is much more nuanced that "gosh, they told me to do it."


It just feels ancient and weird now that I can tap every screen I own, except my Mac. I don't want to replace the Mac's keyboard & mouse with a touchscreen, I would simply like it to support touch.

(This also made me realize the impending obsolescence of the Studio Monitor XDR: no touch support.)


Why though? What compels you to even want that?


My iPad is mounted next to my Macs. I use it as a media player, checking deliveries, personal messages when I'm on my work laptop, and such. All of that is done via touch. When I need to flip over to my Mac to do the same thing, I have to use a 40 year old interface (a mouse).

It's not hard. I don't think we need to make everything touch-size on Mac. Small icons & buttons are perfectly fine in a production environment, and they're considered to be accessible. Just let us touch the screen.


I don’t understand what is wrong with the mouse/trackpad. 40 year old tech? I bet touchscreen tech is that old too.


> I have to use a 40 year old interface (a mouse)

…yeah, and?

Should we just drop mouse’s and keyboards now because they’re “old interfaces”?

C’mon, please. I’m not sure how old you are but you sound like you grew up with an iPad in your hand.


First laptop was a Powerbook 100. First computer was Atari 800. Currently use an MX Master 4 mouse. I totally get the irony.


Ah, that timeframe is helpful to know. I had to replace the keyboard in my 2012 MBP twice, and was able to do it myself both times.

Since then, I always use keyboard skins.


I've never worried about AppleCare for my Apple products, until this year when I signed up for AppleCare One. I bought a few new devices, including the Studio Monitor XDR. For the XDR alone it's worth it, since replacing the screen is a multi-$1k repair.


> If you want a repairable machine, buy one. They exist. Others have already mentioned Framework

But that means Windows or Linux, not macOS. There's serious trade-offs that you're dismissing because you personally don't need macOS, but that's not the case for everyone.

#hn-bingo


macOS has slid a long way down the quality ladder over the past ten years.


In what way? Tahoe's UI SNAFU aside, it seems like it's basically just a more polished version of the older macOS versions from a decade ago.


I run into bugs every day. It wakes, and has a black screen not wallpaper. Change spaces and the focus is wrong for half a second. Login screen is a pain because it collapses all users together. Notifications don’t scroll if they stop scrolling when the cursor is over a gap between them. Something on the system constantly eats disk space, and I think it’s the system updates. If I dock two apps in one space, sometimes one is black. If I zoom out to the Spaces overview it shows fine in the preview though. In the Terminal if I close a tab it can focus an entirely different window.

I could go on for hours. It’s a buggy mess these days and I miss Lion and Snow Leopard desperately.


Unless these problems only started after an upgrade to Tahoe, I would strongly suspect defective hardware in your case.


Yes, these got a lot worse after Tahoe. The past few versions have all had issues on multiple machines.

None of this sounds like a hardware error. Something like notification scrolling is simple bad programming and bad QA. You scroll the list of them, but when the mouse cursor ends up on a gap between them, the new scroll event doesn't apply. They're all individual even though shown together.

Or a black screen on wake - that has the mouse cursor and login prompt, it just sometimes doesn't load the wallpaper or does it slowly. Not hardware - just something buggy. It's unbelievable when I compare to Leopard or whichever version it was introduced the rotating 'cube' of login screens, which always had wallpaper and loaded fast. Here we are fifteen years later with incredibly better hardware and the thing lags.

Same for the rest.


Nothing mentioned in the previous comment is indicative of a hardware problem. If you think I'm wrong, please describe a plausible mechanism to cause any of the problems described above. They all are plausibly software bugs. I mean, Apple hardware is not really any better than any other piece of fallible hardware, and their OS has been a buggy mess since Apple DOS. Most pieces of software as large as an OS are buggy in many ways, and Apple has not been proven to be the exception.



For all its faults I do still like modern macOS, but it is a far cry from the beauty that was Mac OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard).


In the java triggers a crash in apples IO library and they wont fix it way.


What's the crash?


Fast user switching turned into excruciatingly slow user switching.


Oh, I completely agree. But they can get away with it because we depend on the platform more than the individual apps.

And yes, Tahoe is shiny hot garbage piled on top of so much broken software, just to push an effect trick. I'm not sure how I feel developing with SwiftUI when Apple clearly can't make it work for their own apps.


> we depend on the platform more than the individual apps

The only way you actually depend on the platform is if you do Mac OS / iOS development.

However, I happen to work on a project that requires both Windows and Linux, so I get reminders every day of why I should stay on Mac OS as desktop.

Caveat 1: no, I'm not upgrading to Tahoe or iOS 26.

Caveat 2: I wouldn't dream of running a server on anything but Linux. Desktops with a GUI though...

The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.


With all the valid reasons not to upgrade to iOS 26, here's one strongly suggesting doing so:

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/dar...


That only reinforces Apple being assholes. They are perfectly capable of delivering security updates to ios 18, they just choose to not do that for phones that can run 26.

By the way does that mean you can root a phone that's on iOS 18.6? :)


> The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.

I'm with you here, but I'm having a _much_ better time on my Linux machines (KDE and Cinnamon Mint) than on my (unbelievably-powerful-but-for-what) M4 Max MBP. It's so much cleaner, even without having upgraded to Tahoe, and imagine that I don't even like tinkering that much, it just works.


I was using KDE when I switched to Mac OS from Linux as my main desktop (2013 ish).

Must admit I've only looked at the default desktop in Ubuntu in the past years, and that's ... disappointing.

Maybe I should look at how KDE is these days, but it's a second class citizen in most major distros isn't it? Except in this Mint i've never tried.

I also have this fetish for cool and quiet. Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?


> Except in this Mint i've never tried

Well, Cinammon is the windows manager for Mint, it's the barebones experience that's the closest to Windows (?) style, it's mostly what you see is what you get, but still very customizable.

KDE used to be extremely buggy 5-6 years ago and since testing it on my Steam Deck, from my experience, this is no longer the case. It's a bit more feature-rich and flashier than Cinnamon.

> Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?

No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption.

Personally I'm glad to have a windows manager that doesn't force dumb decisions down my throat. On MacOS I have to wait for half a second for the focus to land on the next window when I switch desktops, the only workaround exists as a minor feature recently introduced to BetterSwitchTool called instant desktop switching or something. And it's to be mentioned ofcourse that for all similar fixes you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software. And don't get me started on the stupid windows management (maximize != full-screen, minimized windows not recoverable with keyboard only etc)


> No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption.

Oh the 10 W is my mac mini. The macbook pro idles at 5 W, display included :)

> you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software

Well what do you expect? If Linux/KDE had a permissions system you'd have to grant it too.

> maximize != full-screen

Um. Yes. They should be different. They've been different ever since we had windows on screen in any system that I'm aware of.

Not that I'm a major fan of window management on Mac OS, I just got used to it.


Sure, but relative to windows…


Actually... their MCP reflects more than just supporting AI. It demonstrates the future of closed, walled garden MCPs.

While Figma advertises that their official MCP "can now write directly to your Figma files", in reality it is restricted to create and read (as in CRUD), but not update nor delete. Currently, there is only one option to edit/update using the Figma MCP and it requires going through a third-party service with its own subscription and tiny token allocations.

Meanwhile, several developers have figured out how to use Figma's plug-in system to work-around these limitations, for a more robust CRUD MCP solution.


I don’t think so. Your product / tool has to be extremely specialized and deeply necessary to pull of a walled garden MCP. The more likely alternatives are that someone else comes along with a better (open) integration, the model internalizes your tool’s capabilities, or the AI labs themselves build 1st party competitors.


Figma has demonstrated that kind of aggressive lock-in many times. For example, they couldn't get enough companies to subscribe to FigJam and Slides, so they simply increased Figma's subscription price by that amount, and then said those apps are included for free.

BTW: that's usually illegal, but with the current administration, it's a Tuesday.


You need leverage to do that (I.e we don’t have alternatives), which they’re losing quickly.


People will drink poor quality champagne after they've had one or two good glasses, so the analogy may be appropriate to modern software development.


I agree. I always have to do it, except at the rare restaurants. Not just splinters, but rough edges too.


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